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Post by Sydney on Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:22 pm

You should try putting the lead rope around the horses neck first. My pony used to do that. I trained him from scratch. He barely knew how to lead, was and still is to an extent head shy so every time I caught him, even if he already had his halter on and I was just clipping the lead I would put it around his neck and hold it with one hand. A lot easier than getting your arm yanked off when they go to run or shy from your hand as you do up the halter.
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Post by Cyndi on Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:25 pm

I do put the rope over/around her neck, but perhaps I need to hold the rope in my left hand to hold her head in place while I put my right arm over her neck. What I've been doing is just applying a bit of pressure to the rope and then releasing when she turns her head to me...then she turns her head again, so I have to take the rope again and bring her back to me, etc... I'll try your suggestion and see what she does.

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Post by Sydney on Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:29 pm

No problem. Another thing I taught my pony is when I touch his barrel, right where the girth would go he turns his head into me. I start touching really lightly and increase the pressure I press by every four seconds. When he tips his head in even slightly I release and pat. It makes haltering, bridling, handling etc a breeze. All I have to do now is point at that spot and he turns his head in.

Speaking of pony, I hate to brag but he's seriously the best pony ever!
I just put the cart on him a week ago and we went out for a long drive today, I just got back into the house. There were lots of things even my old mare would spook that that he didn't even look at. When I ask for a trot he just picks it up and goes along until I say stop. I wish he was horse sized so I could ride him instead of all the kids Sad
He just does what I ask, EVERY TIME! Gotta love him.

ok no more thread de-railment lol!
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Post by Cyndi on Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:47 pm

Just a note on the Dually halter. I have Monty Roberts' video, "Join-Up", and at the end of it he has a little blurb about the Dually halter. I'm assuming that's the one that is being discussed in here. I seem to recall on that video that Monty recommends that you never leave the Dually on your horse in the field. It is to be used for training only. There is even a warning on the halter that says not to leave a horse unattended in it. Is that still the case (my DVD is a few years old), or have things changed with it?

FWIW, I have the beta Nurtural Bridle and am happy with it...despite not doing much riding yet. Ah...patience...

Cyndi - who would also like to see some rain because the run-in and surrounding area is a dust bowl when I start cleaning!!
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Post by bohohorse on Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:07 am

Hi Cyndi
I'd personally not leave anything on a horses head in the field, with the possible exception of a velcro fitted fly fringe. I just think, why risk it?

I imagine that the Dually warning is because it has the moveable part; if they managed to catch it on something in the right way it could pull tight. Unlikely perhaps. but any manufacturor has to worry about product liability so they will always err on the side of caution with their advice.

Sounds like you guys are doing really well Very Happy
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Post by Sydney on Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:13 am

Scary story about halters being on in the field:
My farrier comes to trim my horse a couple months ago and brings a hoof, no bones attached just a hoof. He said he was called before he came to do my girls and this pony had caught his hoof in his halter which in the farriers opinion was quite well fitting. The pony was grazing when it happened. He couldn't get his hoof out and when his owners found him they had to cut the halter off. He only had his foot in the halter for 15 minutes. The next day his actual hoof fell off! Kind of like your fingernail falling off only you aren't so Dependant on your nails as horses are hooves. So the pony was real sore and standing on the sensitive part of his hoof. The farrier thought he might be ok but then he got laminitis and had to be put down. The hoof looks really cool though but poor pony.
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Post by bohohorse on Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:49 am

No Oh my God! even MORE reason not to leave anything on.
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Post by PiePony on Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:04 pm

Hi, for some training ideas try
http://www.horsepoint.com.au/portal/alias__horsepointau/tabID__805079/DesktopDefault.aspx
the page reads bottom to top.

All the pages and also the Q&A
http://www.naturalhorsetraining.com/

also anything by Gwen Santagate, she is a sponge for information, is a grandma now, still a barefoot trimmer, clicker training, homeopathay, behaviour/psychology, runs courses on line and forums, joins in a few yahoo groups, alternativehorse is one, see Penzance horse or do a Gwen Santagate websearch.
You will also find her adding some wisdom to some posts with Marv Walker http://marvwalker.com/index.htm as well as writing a lot of articles, some jointly with John Lyons. The woman also fits in caring for kids who have run into problems, obviously has n't enough to do with her own four grown up.

You will also find articles on leading and training here
http://equisearch.com/horses_riding_training/western/halter/ not many bitless but most of the principles are visual/audible cues from your body language and repetition.
Barefoot links I'd need another page or two, but suggest you start by reading and clicking on photos for anatomy on
http://www.equinextion.com/id31.html and their homesite
http://www.equinextion.com/index.html

as well as the super well explained site by Marjorie Smith, lots of links there and plenty of photo's http://www.barefoothorse.com/

and these http://user.cavenet.com/parkerk/
http://www.thepenzancehorse.com/
http://www.barefoottrim.com/
That should keep your house from being cleaned for a good while.
Love Susie xx PiePony

You might want to copy/paste/email yourself for reference as there should be a fair amount of homework to cross reference in that lot.
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Post by armargo on Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:21 am

Thanks for that little snippet of information Susie lol! lol!

I certainly won't be bored tonight study study


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